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Woah, way to turn me off LLL - Elizabeth Unexplained
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Woah, way to turn me off LLL
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From: readsalot Date: October 13th, 2006 02:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
Wow. Color me stunned. I'd heard that LLL was a bit, um, uncompromising in their promotion of breast-feeding, but this goes way beyond anything I'd seen before.
firstfrost From: firstfrost Date: October 13th, 2006 03:49 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm hoping that that's just "We want to support someone who was denied access to perform because she was breastfeeding" and that they didn't look further into what she actually believes beyond that. But wow.

I'm evil because I'm having sex without trying to have babies, and you're evil because you're trying to have babies beyond just having sex. Way to alienate 90% of the target audience.
sorceror From: sorceror Date: October 13th, 2006 05:19 pm (UTC) (Link)
Way to alienate 90% of the target audience.

Wait. Who's the remaining 10%? O_o
firstfrost From: firstfrost Date: October 13th, 2006 06:14 pm (UTC) (Link)
Well, women who take it as their mandate in life to stay home work and have children and get pregnant immediately upon having sex for the first time and breast feed, don't come under fire from her. There's probably *some* of those. :)

(Sudden paranoid worry: Yes, there's a sarcastic tone to "mandate in life" there. That's not aimed at stay-at-home moms, that's aimed at this particular woman, who does seem to believe in such a Mandate.)
enugent From: enugent Date: October 13th, 2006 05:15 pm (UTC) (Link)
There's an update - LLL has cancelled her because of complaints. I think this was a case of someone not doing homework beforehand.

Which is not to say that I agree with everything LLL stands for. I never attended a meeting, but I've definitely heard some weird things about their stance on working moms. I've also heard that it depends on which group you go to, though.
kirisutogomen From: kirisutogomen Date: October 13th, 2006 06:28 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, it sounds like someone said, "Hey, a comedian whose schtick involves breastfeeding! I'm so sure that'll be great, I won't even bother to investigate further."

What have you heard about their "stance on working moms?" I don't believe they have one as an organization, but as you imply, different groups may have their own idiosyncratic attitudes. The LLL leader I know best certainly doesn't have any problems with working mothers.
enugent From: enugent Date: October 13th, 2006 06:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
I agree, I don't think I've heard that the organization has promulgated any stance on working mothers, but I've heard a lot of stories about individual groups that have basically told working mothers that if they'd just quit their jobs, they wouldn't have breastfeeding problems.
remcat From: remcat Date: October 14th, 2006 12:44 am (UTC) (Link)
How about getting turned off to a particular woman, instead of assuming she speaks for all of LLL?
greyautumnrain From: greyautumnrain Date: October 14th, 2006 01:41 am (UTC) (Link)
Well, getting turned off of her goes without saying, but I'm really appalled that LLL would even consider hiring someone like that to speak for even the briefest instant. Now they have cancelled her at this point, but it still says something about the folks in charge in the organization. The most flattering thing I can think is that someone who should have known better was very lax about doing their homework.
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