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The Phantom Menace leads to A New Hope - Elizabeth Unexplained
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The Phantom Menace leads to A New Hope
As enugent suggested, it is indeed time to go back to the beginning of the series. As it turns out, either title is appropriate.

When last we left out story, Darth Sidious had recently been thrown down a reactor shaftremoved and dissected by Yoda. Now, our two heros have gone up the turbo lift at the Jedi Temple in Post Office Square to see what Yoda had to say about it. Yoda is always good at answering questions and even gave us a copy of the technical readout pathology report.

It turns out that Sidious was an endometrioma. Short version: I had early stage 2 endometriosis We have no idea how long he may have been there, a phantom menace indeed, seeing as how endo is very hard to detect with any certainty short of the surgery I just had. There is no telling how long this phantom menace has been lurking, thwarting my reproductive aspirations, but I have had painful cramps all along.

Where the A New Hope part of the story comes in is that Yoda is convinced that he has totally thwarted the dark side matter hanging out in and around my reproductive organs, which means he thinks I should have a much better change of getting pregnant. At the end of the appointment Warren asked for a hard statisticaly number. (Warren is the Best Husband Ever for getting up early to come with me and thinking of questions like that.) Yoda's answer was a 60% chance of getting pregnant if I tried for a year on my own, which is not what I'm going to do. What Yoda is suggesting that I do is go back to Grace Wendo and start the IUI thing all over again.

That brings us back to why its so appropriate that we loop back to the beginning of the series. You see, we are looping back to the beginning as far as the insurance is concerned. In case you didn't know, fertility treatment costs a fair amount of money. I don't know exactly how much mine costs, since I have coverage, but I've heard estimates of about $1000 to $1500 per IUI cycle, and ten times that much for IVF. In Massachusetts, infertility treatment must be included in medical insurance (hooray for liberal states). This means I have three IUIs with Clomid, three IUIs with gonadotrophins and three IVF cycles in which to get pregnant. Now, obviously none of those are guarenteed to work. The best statistical chance is an IVF cycle, with a 35% chance of getting the woman knocked up. Of course the more shots you get at rolling the dice the more chances you have of getting lucky. Now Sidious was detected after I'd already had two IUIs with Clomid. In fact I still have the drugs for the third cycle that never happened at home. Since Sidious was in there ruining any chance I might have for success those cycles were effectively wasted, however, because Yoda went in and removed Sidious and his dark-side pals, the clock gets set back on the insurance, and I get to start over fresh. That means nine covered cycles of treatment in which to get pregnant before the insurance declares me a lost cause. I just need to call Grace Wendo and schedule an appointment to see her again. Of course, I'll probably have to wait two weeks to see her, which means that the cycle that should start this week will be wasted, but that's ok. (Heh, theoretically we could conceive naturally that cycle, but that sort of thing only happens to other people.)

In other news my incisions are healing nicely, though Yoda remarked on the remains of the bruising, which make me think he thought I'd be alarmed by such vivid colors. Heh, a true jedi worries not about these things.

Alas, there are no pictures to post, as they are still at B&W, and it turns out I can't actually get copies to take home. I know you're all almost as crushed as I am to not get to see photos of my ovaries.

Current Mood: hopeful hopeful

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firstfrost From: firstfrost Date: July 10th, 2006 08:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
Cool, good news with extra bonus good news!
mijven From: mijven Date: July 10th, 2006 09:10 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hurrah for liberal states indeed! And may the force be with you in locating that Wendo appointment!
jaedian From: jaedian Date: July 11th, 2006 12:24 am (UTC) (Link)
Yay! THat sounds promising.

Did you get the statistic for a normal couple concieving for you age? I seem to remember it starts to fall as you get older, such that a year would not be unusual. Although I would have to guess after a year the % should be higher than 60. Anyway, it wouldn't hurt to give it a good try this month if you miss out on the IUI.

I am glad you get the clock turned back on the insurance. As ferility treatment is so very expensive. I think maybe the more invasive stuff is even more? Does the clock reset after you get pregnant? (as in a 2nd child)? I think it could be worth relocating to a liberal state if you are having fertility challenges.

jaedian From: jaedian Date: July 11th, 2006 12:27 am (UTC) (Link)


I read the info on the link you posted. It is a little frustrating that they haven't a clue why endometriosis causes fertility issues.

One of the theories:
"Other researchers feel that endometriosis can cause a luteal phase defect, which results from low levels of the hormone progesterone or a poor build-up of the uterine lining after ovulation."
Wasn't there some question early on of whether you had a luteal phase defect or not?
remcat From: remcat Date: July 11th, 2006 03:01 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Endometriosis

I think at some point I commented that LP numbers/length didn't seem quite up to ideal standards .... I would be interested to see if your BBT charts change after this surgery! Hm, you are my test subject, heh heh heh.

Since only other people get pregnant on their own, it will be perfectly safe for you to have as much, um, marital bliss as you like this month :). Congrats on all the positive news.
greyautumnrain From: greyautumnrain Date: July 11th, 2006 01:30 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Endometriosis

Yes, I noted the LP defect thing with interest. Of course I gave up charting partly on Yoda's advice and partly because it seemed so pointless -- it was feeling like even with the most perfect timing nothing was going to happen. I might start again with OPKs on non-treatment cycles, but I threw out my thermometer, and good riddance.
jaedian From: jaedian Date: July 12th, 2006 02:09 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Endometriosis

Charting is a pain. And never had great success with the actual charting anyway. My cycle was regular enough that the charting was mostly useless.

The article didn't say whether fixing the endometriosis fixes the LP defect. I suppose it depends how much they could fix during surgery. But I thought just giving progesterone at the right time helped with the LP defect. Seems like if that was the cause of endometriosis derived infertility someone would have tried the prog. Seems safer than surgery anyway.
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