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Why isn't everyone doing it? - Elizabeth Unexplained
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Why isn't everyone doing it?
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From: (Anonymous) Date: July 15th, 2008 03:47 pm (UTC) (Link)
Eek eek eek. This worries me.

I'm happy with people having kids or not having kids as they so choose, but it worries me when people say things like "just as we want to sacrifice a few people to keep our population stable".

It's not stable if the options are "work" or "have kids." Because if a person (or a child-raising unit) can't do both, then where is the money supposed to come from to support these children? Even for someone who loves having kids, struggling to support them because the good jobs are reserved for those who don't have outside interests, *is* a huge sacrifice. And I think most people are happier if they don't get to make only one contribution to the world (you may only do surgery, sorry, no personal life; you may only have babies, there's no other use to you; you may only be a doorstop, and when the door is closed, you have no purpose)



dcltdw From: dcltdw Date: July 15th, 2008 04:11 pm (UTC) (Link)
Ooh, there's a context shift in there. My previous context: in a spherical frictionless world... your context is "yes, but in the reality -we- live in". :)

So in my spherical frictionless cow universe, a lot of things are set up differently: minor details like "everyone agrees with dcltdw (the Fount of All Wisdom) that Society spending significant money on schools is a good thing" and major details like "those who are good at X go off and do X" where X is anything. Mmm dictatorial central control of people's lives: clearly, a good way to run society. *nods sagely* :) It'd help if dcltdw (the Fount of All Wisdom) were accepted as God-Emperor of Earth, and I'm working on that. ;) To be *slightly* serious, I feel like there's a lot of merit to individuals saying, "okay, the trend is that a person in my spot goes off and does X. Do I really want to do that?", and now I could rapidly slide back towards the spherical cow about "and how do we teach people to have enough self-confidence to resist social pressure without resorting to senseless reactionary behavior" annnnd yeaaaah. :)

So, if I join you in this reality, then... hmm. I feel tempted to go off on a "each day, you only have $X money and 24 hours and $Z energy, so where do you spend it?" discussion, and really, I wouldn't be surprised if we were largely in agreement on the underlying principles.

And I think most people are happier if they don't get to make only one contribution to the world

Oh, totally agreed. :)
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