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greyautumnrain
greyautumnrain
... and in her spare time she might save the world once or twice
I had a chat with Margaret today. The usualy catching up (Kaden is standing now, not bad for a seven month old), and some more about the possible plan for her to donate eggs should IVFs numbers four and five prove as fruitless as one, two and three. A slight extra timing constraint has been introduced.

Margaret has started training again, with the plan to go to Olympic trials in 2008. This means that come April she can't be taking any drugs at all. Now, I may not have an advanced medical degree, but I'm pretty sure that none of the drugs involved in IVF can be considered performance enhancers in the athletic sense. In fact, my experience would indicate that they tend to cramp your style. But of course due to a few bad apples, the Olympic folks are so over-the-top paranoid about doping that Margaret won't even touch asperin when she's in training. So there you have it, there will be a brief window of opportunity between January and April if we decide to do this, and then not again until after summer.

Acutally, given Olympic trials plan I might be inclined to wait anyway if we end up going that route. They only send one female race walker to the Olympics each time it rolls around. Margaret was in the top five before she had Kaden, and female race walkers tend to actually impove once they've popped out a kid. While she protests that I've waited long enough and she doesn't want to make me wait any longer, Bejing might be her last chance at the Olympics and I surely do not want her to miss her dream because she was helping mine come true. Sure, its been a long time for me, but Margaret has been training for the Olympics even longer than I've been trying to have a baby.

On the other hand, maybe she can do it all. People are constantly underestimating Margaret, as I keep saying. I'll guess we'll see what happens with #4 & #5 before seeing if my angst about it is necessary.
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merastra From: merastra Date: August 23rd, 2007 05:09 am (UTC) (Link)
>> Margaret was in the top five

That's pretty incredible! I had no idea. Go Margaret! :-)
enugent From: enugent Date: August 23rd, 2007 08:20 pm (UTC) (Link)
If you think there's a reasonable probability of doing it in the Jan-Apr timeframe, I suggest you talk to your doctors now about whether there's any testing that Margaret can or should do ahead of time. I don't know if they can do FSH/E2 readings while she's nursing, but they may be able to get other necessary bloodwork out of the way to smooth the path. Or even if you end up waiting until after the Olympics, she may be able to do all the preliminary testing during training, so she can start a cycle as soon as she gets back. (As far as I know, the Olympics doesn't care if you take blood out - just if you put anything back.)
jaedian From: jaedian Date: August 23rd, 2007 10:48 pm (UTC) (Link)
Neat! I had no idea. Actually I didn't really know there was a race walking event although I am not too surprised. Why does the having a kid help? does it change the pelvis somehow?

OK, there have to be guidelines on the drugs. Some must be acceptable. I know asthmatics have competed before. And there are some other chronic conditions which would impact on your ability to compete. Although the drugs she needs here are hormones, no clue how they would impact performance - my guess would be possibly negatively which you don't want either.

It looks like you could be ready to go in the Jan-Apr timeframe. Will she be weaned by then? You probably ought to get ready to hit the ground running though. Pretesting sounds like a great idea. Getting your doctors into the picture also seems wise.

I know you have been waiting a long time and all, but if you use her eggs, well her eggs are younger than yours right? So you are on her biological clock for that part. Assuming that the age of the eggs is usually the most time sensitive. Because going to the Olympics is so cool - not many people even have a chance at that. But getting at least a chance at her eggs if you can beforehand is a plus - I know it likely decreases your chances - but can you freeze embryos or eggs? (assuming she gets high yields)
greyautumnrain From: greyautumnrain Date: August 24th, 2007 03:20 am (UTC) (Link)
Having a baby can widen the pelvis, which might be why they do better after. Its mostly an anecdotal observation.

She's planning on weaning in January, when Kaden turns one, hence the January plan. There's not much point in freezing her eggs though, the process is the same for her whether we freeze them or transfer embryos.
enugent From: enugent Date: August 24th, 2007 04:45 pm (UTC) (Link)
As I think about it, even if there's no other screening that it would be beneficial to do beforehand, I'm sure that the clinic is going to require psychological screening of Margaret to be sure she knows what she's getting into, and possibly for you, too. I'm sure that could be done before she weans Kaden, and I could easily see it being time-consuming, so I would ask about it (maybe after this cycle is over, if it doesn't work - I can see not wanting to be worrying about gearing up for it while you're in the middle of stims).
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