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On names and timing
On thing I didn't mention on Friday was that Friday was cycle day one. Yes, my period with its usual sense of timing, elected to show up at exactly the same time as my sister was in labor. I took my first BCP (also known as 'irony pills' around here) for IVF #2 last night.

Yesterday's phone call to Margaret revealed that my new nephew now has a name. Its Kaden Dean. My parents were worried all along that it would be some weird California name. I'm afraid that the choice of names has only confirmed their fears. Margaret is certainly not oblivious to this. Poor Margaret, people are always underestimating how sharp she is, even her own parents. We discussed our parent's reaction to the name on the phone. Margaret's reaction to my suggestion that it was a less unusual name for California: "Yeah, they're lucky we didn't name him Sunflower or something." Have I mentioned that I really appreciate my sister's sense of humor?

I did a little research of my own on the SSA baby names site and discovered that Kaden was 101st in popularity for boy names in 2005. So yes, its unusual, but not exactly completely unheard of. In contrast, Phoenix was at 478 in 2005 and Grayson was 253, so Warren's brother George still wins the award for unusual nephew names. As a point of referrence, Margaret's own name was ranked 95th in popularity for the year she was born.

The bottom line of course is that this is John and Margaret's baby and they get the final call on what to name it, despite Mom's somewhat... proactive... pushing of James as a name. Mom is used to getting her own way with baby names. She got to pick our first names when we were born by simply telling the nurse what she wanted. Dad wasn't at the hospital with her to argue. We got his choices as middle names. I'm feeling a lot more sympathy for John at the moment, who probably did not want to give his kid a very common name having grown up with the one of the most popular male names of all time.
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enugent From: enugent Date: January 22nd, 2007 07:07 pm (UTC) (Link)
Wow - my main concern with Kaden would be that it's overused (especially with all the different spellings), not that it's "too weird." Well, I probably wouldn't use it myself, because it's not really my style, but it's a perfectly nice name.

If you haven't seen it, you might enjoy playing with the Name Voyager.
jaedian From: jaedian Date: January 22nd, 2007 09:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think you WANT a slightly unusual name. Not one to get teased about, but you really don't want 2-3 kids in your class with the same name!

Alas my first has a bit too common a name and always has to have her last name or intial applied. And my second has two or three Tylers in his class, and I think there is another name duplicated, I can't remember it right now.

I think Kaden is a fine name, and let me tell you, Mom and then maybe Dad will be the ones who say this name A LOT. I mean A LOT. Not the grandparents or anyone else. So they should like the name!
From: treptoplax Date: January 22nd, 2007 10:02 pm (UTC) (Link)
Slightly unusual, yes. My parents both have unusual surnames (to the point where my father's is routinely 'corrected' to a misspelling) - I think they may have overcorrected a bit (if my name weren't common enough, my sister's is 'Jennifer').
twe From: twe Date: January 22nd, 2007 10:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
More "uncommon" than "unusual" which often just means "often misspelled." It's always difficult to have the popular name, whether it's a trendy one or a traditional one.
ricedog From: ricedog Date: January 22nd, 2007 10:27 pm (UTC) (Link)
I like having a very common name. We usually win at human tic-tac-toe, there's a warm fuzzy feeling like being a member of a cult, and we can form a student organization just for us.

I wasn't expecting to hear that Kaden is an overused name. I can't think of any homonym names either.
kirisutogomen From: kirisutogomen Date: January 22nd, 2007 10:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
There are a bunch of homonyms for Kaden, several of which are also somewhat common. Kadin, Kadyn, Kaeden, Kaiden, and Kayden all make the top 1000 list.

For 2000-2005 births, Kaden was more common than Derek, Gregory, Martin, Scott, Phillip, Donald, Keith, Simon, Frank, or Ronald.

I'm as surprised as you, possibly more so.
mijven From: mijven Date: January 23rd, 2007 03:09 am (UTC) (Link)

Wow. That's pretty impressive for a name I've never heard of before. :) But I like it. (I do happen to like the middle name more, but that just makes it an all around win.)
enugent From: enugent Date: January 23rd, 2007 03:57 pm (UTC) (Link)
Don't forget Caden, Cayden, and Caiden, all of which are also on the list.
psychohist From: psychohist Date: January 23rd, 2007 05:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
So basically everyone on the west coast is naming their boys Kaden or a variation?

Is there some famous actor whose movies aren't viewed outside Hollywood or something? When I did a web search on Kayden, all I could find was Kaden tower, a 10 story office building....
enugent From: enugent Date: January 23rd, 2007 05:43 pm (UTC) (Link)
It seems to be a spinoff of the popularity of Aidan, which is part of the Celtic names trend.
ricedog From: ricedog Date: January 23rd, 2007 07:54 pm (UTC) (Link)
Based on my extremely limited experience, everyone on the west coast is naming their sons Max. It could also be a NorCal/SoCal thing.
enugent From: enugent Date: January 23rd, 2007 10:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
OK, because I'm a geek with nothing better to do, I added up the number of babies named Caden, Kaden, Kadin, Kayden, Kaiden, Kadyn, Kaeden, Caiden, or Cayden in 2005. The result was 14,452, which would put the name in 19th place if they were all spelled the same - more popular than Jonathan but less popular than John. (But still less popular than the sum of Jonathan and Johnathan. :-P ) None of them made the top 100 in Massachusetts, but Aidan, Aiden, Jayden, and Brayden all did, so the east coast isn't immune to the trend, either.
greyautumnrain From: greyautumnrain Date: January 23rd, 2007 04:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yes, it was also more popular than Gordon, another one of my parent's picks. It also beat Henry by two places.
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