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Fashion Disjoint
This is sort of a follow up to yesterday's post, kind of.

What is up with people who design clothes? I always used to think I was some sort of oddball because I usually hated stuff that was in style. Now I'm not so sure. I'm beginning to suspect that I'm just less easily badgered into buying stuff that the fashion industry is trying to pawn off on us than the average woman.

Exhibit A: I like dressing nicely. I love dressing up. Supposedly, dressing formally is considered to be a burden these days, and yet I know plenty of people, both from dancing and from work who welcome the chance to go to parties where they can dress up. This includes a fair number of guys. And yet, I get the feeling from media articles that asking people to wear anything more than "business casual" to anything is a burden.

Exhibit B: I love wearing skirts. I love my skirts to be full. Short skirts are fun if I'm in the mood, but I love long skirts dearly. I own several ankle-length skirts. Of course skirts that are full enough to dance in are nigh impossible to find outside of specialty dance stores. This would lead you to think that this style must not be very popular. I mean, if people like skirts like that, wouldn't they be more readily available? Well, I've had tons of people compliment me on my skirts, and even ask me where I got them. They seem pretty disappointed when they discover that the source of my skirts is 3k miles away in a foreign country. I suspect that more people would buy skirts like mine if they were more readily available.

Exhibit C: I wear hats. I don't know what people supposedly have against hats. They keep the sun off my face, which given my complextion and extra-sensitive eyes is a year-round consideration. They're very practical as far as I'm concerned, and I like the way they look too. I've had random people walk up to me and compliment me on my hats, so I don't think its just me. And yet, I almost never see other people wearing proper hats. I don't know, maybe the knit stocking caps that people's mothers made them wear in the winter gave hats a bad name with most people. I know I hated them because my hair would look horrible all day after wearing one. The thing is, proper hats have never given me hat hair. That's the only reason I can think of why people wouldn't wear hats more, other than a lack of availability.

I wonder if people who design and market clothes need a clue handed to them, or if they're just marketing random stuff that will quickly become dated so that they can sell the same people new clothes next year. Sometimes I wonder if they market stuff like low rise jeans (which, IMO look bad on any woman with more than an ounce of body fat) so that people will realize how bad they look and come back sooner for more clothes.

Perhaps I should start my own fashion design house... right after I take over the world.

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undauntra From: undauntra Date: April 19th, 2005 01:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
I like the way hats look, but I do not wear them because they make my forehead break out.
mijven From: mijven Date: April 19th, 2005 04:48 pm (UTC) (Link)
My head is non-standard size, as in big. It gets extra big if I try to put my hair up. I suppose an expert milliner would solve this problem, but I know of none.
jcatelli From: jcatelli Date: April 19th, 2005 05:10 pm (UTC) (Link)
I have the same problem. I wear a men's large hat. Cute women's hats do not come in that size....
coraline From: coraline Date: April 19th, 2005 08:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
i like hats. sadly, i also like my bangs more, and bangs and hats do NOT mix.
coraline From: coraline Date: April 19th, 2005 08:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
(but i haven't had problems finding long swirly skirts... they're also one of my favorite things, but maybe i just have better luck.)
greyautumnrain From: greyautumnrain Date: April 20th, 2005 06:09 am (UTC) (Link)
I am perhaps more picky. All my skirts need to be full circle skirts so I can dance in them. For example broomstick skirts are not full enough to dance in, though they look great.
coraline From: coraline Date: April 20th, 2005 06:15 am (UTC) (Link)
do they have to be FULL circle? that seems like an excessive requirement (though of course, lots of fun :), but i don't dance ballroom.

i need to make more circle skirts :)
greyautumnrain From: greyautumnrain Date: April 20th, 2005 06:20 am (UTC) (Link)
Pretty much. Keep in mind that the guy is stepping between your legs, so you need enough skirt to go around both of your legs and his in an S curve kind of shape. If you're going to dance all out that means a full circle is necessary.
greyautumnrain From: greyautumnrain Date: April 20th, 2005 06:16 am (UTC) (Link)

Lucky with Hats

OK, the hats thing might be good luck on my part. I also have a non-standard head size, but in my case this means really small. This can be fixed by extra padding under the band inside the brim. I also have baby-fine hair, so while I can't wear some hairstyles with a hat, I'm not terribly limited. The break-out thing might be helped by a good inside band that keeps your head from sweating, but then again I have dry skin and so I'm less prone to break out.

On the other hand, knowing about Toppers is a big bonus on finding hats that work.
merastra From: merastra Date: April 20th, 2005 08:48 pm (UTC) (Link)

Re: Lucky with Hats

Okay, I'll bite. What's "Toppers"? toppers.com is pizza and I don't think that's what you mean. :-)
greyautumnrain From: greyautumnrain Date: April 23rd, 2005 08:57 am (UTC) (Link)

Re: Lucky with Hats

Toppers is the store on Newbury Street where I buy all my hats.
twe From: twe Date: April 20th, 2005 07:47 am (UTC) (Link)
Actually, low rise jeans were a godsend to me. My waist is a lot smaller than my hips, so waist high jeans always had this huge gap in the back. Jeans are the only kinds of pants that I can get the reliably fit both waist & hips & aren't too short. Shopping for dress pants is a nightmare for me.

Hats I gave up on because they don't work well with pony tails & buns. I could revisit that now that my hair is short, but I haven't bothered.

I like dressing up, except for the shoes, which are always uncomfortable. Of course, then I'd be all dressed up with no place to go.
dcltdw From: dcltdw Date: April 21st, 2005 08:30 am (UTC) (Link)
Heh. You would probably know: go to a corporate party for a software company. That's funny. :) Nuclearpolymer and I like to dress up, and part of that (for me) is that we can pull it off really well. We don't look like "umm, we got dressed up, now what?"

Can't really comment on the skirts thing; my kilt is fun. Still getting used to it (I don't have the automatic reflexes for it yet).

Hats, ha ha, it's not just a sizing problem for women. At least when I got my fedora, they had sizes well behind the size of my enormous head, but that was vaguely a specialty online store. My safari hat I got from a mall store barely fits, although if I remember to use the hat jack on it, it stretches out more.

My guess is that the clothes you're talking about buying are not sufficiently mainstream, so clothes designers are not paying attention. Fashion is about a look. Circle skirts and hats are about functionality.

And I mostly still don't understand low-rise jeans...
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