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greyautumnrain
greyautumnrain
Officially Uncool
I just traded in my Jetta for a 2010 Honda Odyssey. Obviously it's not without some regret as I will miss my zippy little German sedan, but with the prospect of having two kids under two as of February it seemed that sliding power doors would be highly useful, and there is no way to fit two parents, two kids in car seats and an au pair in a Jetta. So, minivan it was. Also, my regret over losing the Jetta was greatly lessened by the fact that my dealership moved to a much less convenient location last winter and simultaneously became much less reliable at fixing my car. The Honda dealership is conveniently located, and Warren uses them to service his S2000 and is pleased with them; these factors weighed pretty heavily in my decision to go with the Honda.

Sadly I can not recommend the sales staff highly. The first guy we talked to was really good and nice, but he wasn't around the next time we went in, so we instead got a guy who was so much the stereotypical care salesman that it was funny. When we were picking the van up today Warren actually felt compelled to tell the guy to talk to me because I was the one buying the car. Of course I will never have to deal with this person again, so it doesn't matter, but perhaps if the dealership asks about my experience I will clue his manager into the fact that perhaps this guy needs some remedial help. Also, insulting the way German cars handle to a VW owner is perhaps not the best way to win friends and influence people. I was not giving up the VW because I was displeased at the way it drove, I was replacing it because my needs had very clearly changed.

The new vehicle is very nice in many respects once you get past the minivanness of it. It has the fancy navigation feature, and a DVD player for pacifying the occupants of the rear two rows, and this handy mirror that lets me actually see what Margaret is up to without turning around. Since I expect to be taking car trips to see grandparents and also carting visiting grandparents around town it's a good thing to have. Also, I am hoping the sheer size of the vehicle will cut down on the territorial battles that Warren and I both remember having about the back seat of the family car, though this is mostly likely wishful thinking on my part.

Speaking of size, it occurs to me that I have now surpassed treptoplax in the category of available passenger space in a vehicle parked at work (since harrock takes the T instead of driving his van.) I think I just became the designated person to drive when we eat out as a group.

There is one thing that has not changed: My old car was dark blue with a gray leather interior, and the new van is dark blue with a gray leather interior.
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firstfrost From: firstfrost Date: September 1st, 2009 04:40 am (UTC) (Link)
Car salesmen really do have this amazing tendency to be stereotypical. The last car-buying I went on was as company when mjperson bought his car, and we kept snickering whenever he "went to talk to his manager."

Unlike in your story, though, this salesman found it a little disconcerting that I seemed to have no particular opinion on whether I liked the car or not, and that Mike was willing to buy it without giving me a vote. :)
arcanology From: arcanology Date: September 1st, 2009 08:13 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yeah, the guy I bought my car from did the same thing, and also complained bitterly about how the internet was causing trouble. And another guy did the "what do I have to do to get you in this car today" thing.

Fie on the lot of them, the internet can't kill their profession soon enough for me.
enugent From: enugent Date: September 1st, 2009 05:55 pm (UTC) (Link)
The woman in our office with an Odyssey is the designated driver for all large lunch expeditions, although I try to drive whenever it's just the two of us going out to give her a break. (Her car is popularly referred to as "the [company name] party bus" around here.)

I am told that with twins, the preferred arrangement for daily use is to take out one of the two middle-row seats. Then you can climb in out of the elements and mess around with the other middle-row seat and the now more-accessible back row seat to get the kids belted in. I don't know if that will apply the same way to the two-under-two situation you have, but in case it does, I thought I'd let you know.

How much longer will Jomkwan be with you? Hasn't it been about a year?
countertorque From: countertorque Date: September 2nd, 2009 07:54 am (UTC) (Link)
Whether you drive for lunch or not depends entirely on how much fun you think it is to take the car seats in and out.
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